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Posted on February 7, 2010 at 7:16 PM

Updated Monday, Feb 8 at 12:41 AM

Four LMPD officers are on administrative leave for firing their weapons at a suspect killing him last night but police aren't the only ones asking questions.

Police say an officer was responding to a "trouble call" in the 1500 block of Oneida Court.

When they arrived, one slipped on ice and was approached by a man holding a hammer.

Police say, the officer fired his gun in response, but it was unclear whether the man was struck.

A second officer arrived on the scene and deployed his Taser but missed the man, who ran back inside his apartment.

A few minutes later, two more officers arrived. That's when police say the man came back out of apartment holding the hammer and was shot.

Sunday the coroner's office confirmed that man was 48-year-old Donnie Miles, a man people who live at Iroquois Park say had a history of mental illness and a man they believe police should never have shot.

Police tell us they are still investigating this case but some people who live at Iroquois Homes say, that's not enough and some local leaders agree.

Bishop Dennis Lyons of the Voices of Louisville Civil Rights Organization said, "We're hearing more police shootings almost as much as we hear citizen shootings."

He’s taking action and says he's calling on the Police Department to explain Saturday night's officer involved shooting to the public.

"We're not saying that they did anything wrong, but it's a concern of ours that these incidents continue to pop up not only here and in the black community, but all over the city," said Lyons.

The latest incident left Donnie Miles dead.

Police tell us officers shot him after he threatened them with a hammer.

People who live here at Iroquois Homes say, Miles had a history of mental illness and had been in trouble with police before.

His arrest history dates back to 1986 and includes everything from disorderly conduct and criminal mischief to assault of a police officer.

But friends say he should never have been shot.

"He was a sweet person.  He would do anything for anybody," said Nancy French, "The cops didn't need to do that.  He just had a hammer.  Why couldn't they just shoot him in the leg?"

But Sharon Davis, who has lived at Iroquois Homes for the past 23 years says, she isn't surprised that police shot Miles.

"The people who live here and police are not friends," said Davis.

"Maybe it took Donnie's death for people to realize what's going on out here at Iroquois with police."

That's the issue Bishop Lyons plans to address and he says stop.

"It's an ongoing problem.  This is the result of something that has been brewing for over a year."

These four officers are on paid administrative leave, all have, at most, three years of service with this department.

Bishop Lyons says he hopes to meet with Chief White about this incident Tuesday night.

A spokesperson for the police department tells us they are happy to meet with anyone who approaches them. 

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citizenkane said on February 9, 2010 at 10:56 AM

I feel for his family. How many times did they suffer from abuse, lose family holidays and become dsyfunctional members of society themselves during his mental illness? Remember the little boy he was to what he had become? to get to this point in his life didnt happen overnight. This final outcome is less a suprise than just a when. Ilrational people when allowed to escalate over and over continue to increase their irratic behavior because those exposed to it on a regular basis see it as the norm and don't give the reaction desired by the perpretator. And though people may remember him as a"sweet man", obviously he had a very dark side. I am sure that though his family grieves at least now they have opportunity to heal. How normal is it to chase someone into their own home? What if he had murdered his neighbor who called? Let someone come at you with a hammer and see if it isnt "lethal". Again mentally ill or not, there is a time we are all responsible for our actions

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purecountry said on February 8, 2010 at 11:47 AM

If everyone thinks it's so easy to take a hammer away from a crazy man then don't call the police next time. Disarm him yourselves!!! Don't want your mentally ill getting in trouble? Keep them supervised and out of trouble!! You people don't like the way police handle these situations but you raise your kids to be criminals. You don't teach them respect. I was coming out of Kosair Circus yesterday when a black man with a little kid with him was singing "I don't know what you came here to do, but I will be the hillbilly F*%# out of you". He should have been arrested right there. That was a really fine example to set for his kid wasn't it? TRASH should have been thrown out kid and all. You people act like that in front of your kids and teach them that is how to act then you want to cry when they get in trouble with the law. Idiots!! Uneducated, no manners, no respect, no morals, no values, idiots!!

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byster said on February 8, 2010 at 9:57 AM

The people in the projects called the police because they felt threatened by this man, he had a hammer, was beating on doors, throwing objects at peoples doors, if someone had been near him he most likely would have atacked them, then they would have been crying the police didn't do enough. Every night you hear of someone killing someone in Louisville if I were in those police officers shoes I had done the same thing. They tried talking to him, tazing him and peper spray that didn't stop him. Why should they have to fist fight a loon carrying a hammer. Would you?

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jro40299 said on February 8, 2010 at 9:48 AM

agree with scania

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scania said on February 8, 2010 at 9:20 AM

Are you kidding me? Shoot him in the leg? Center mass officer shoot to kill! Do it the way you was trained and then go home to your family .These people have no idea how dangerous a situation is where a violent person has any kind of a weapon in thier hands.You are not paid to bleed officers you are not paid to take a beating. And further more had he been shot in the leg the LMPD would have yet again another law suit to defend against. Shoot to kill! Center Mass. Aim small miss small! Protect yourself officers. Thank you for making Louiville a better place to live.

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jobti said on February 8, 2010 at 9:04 AM

FYI the aorta starts branching out within several inches of leaving the heart, the one large branch in the jugular, feeding the brain area, the thoracic then branches several times, feeding both sides of the body, arms, etc.,,at a point it then splits into two branches and that is the femoral (both right and left). Now, do you want to discuss the return system, or is this anatomy lesson enough? As for you coming to the door with a fork in your hand, it would depend entirely on why I was at your door. A simple warrant, you'd probably have been OK, a complaint of current violent behavior, I would have probably already had my hands on my nightstick and used it on you. Sadly, these kids today are not allowed to use a nightstick. So, depending on your reactions you could very well have been shot for having a fork in your hands, yes. BTW, did I forget to mention that I rode the Smoketown beat for 23 years? Oops, sorry about that. Those are my credentials....what are yours?

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stingeray said on February 8, 2010 at 7:51 AM

jobti---your so right,ITS NOT THE MOVIES.And your comment was dumb. our AORTA runs the length of our bodies too,so there fore does that mean he shouldn't have been shot because if the aorta was hit he would have bled to death in seconds.oops you didn't think of that did you.If I am ever in a situation where a cop knocks at my door I sure hope I am not haveing dinner at the time,I may be holding my fork ,I might get shot.I dont expect to ever have one come to my door since I am a good little girl but ye never know when one may stop by for a donation or to sell tickets for some reason,me with a big old fork in my hand,BANG ! mY lORD,HE COULDA BEEN KILLED WITH THAT FORK ?

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stingeray said on February 8, 2010 at 7:36 AM

I watch live "cops" all the time,also "tru TV".You see Professionals and you see a lot of complete jerks playing Police Officers. Yes,being a Policeman is a dangerous job.When they walk up to a car window they dont know if they are going to get shot or whats going to happen.But,Many times they go to extremes ,jerking someone out of the car and not even giveing them a chance to lay down on the ground,they grab them and sling them on the ground like animals.Then you have the Professional Officer who gives the person a chance to at least ask why he or she was stopped.There are Cops and then we have COWBOYS That are itching to use that gun on someone. I read this artical and it said nothing about the man WAILDING A HAMMER.It said they were threatned with a hammer,in other words he was holding a hammer and the little cops felt THREATENED BY IT.

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stingeray said on February 8, 2010 at 7:19 AM

This really makes me angry.What did the Police officer think this man was going to do with the hammer "SHOOT HIM WITH IT ".????? What dopes those officers were.Aw come on now ! Yes,why didn't they shoot him in the leg,why kill the man? Did this poor man draw back his arm to hit one of them with the hammer or was he just holding it in his hand??? What if he had just nailed a picture on the wall. Those officers should be fired from their jobs and set in jail awhile to think about what they should have done and didn't,instead ofgiveing them a little vacation while the Dept thinks it over and acts like they care.

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mcki777 said on February 8, 2010 at 5:03 AM

HE DID NOT HIT ANYONE. AGAIN, FOUR SUPPOSEDLY TRAINED OFFICERS AND ONE MAN. I STILL SAY HE COULD HAVE BEEN DEALT WITH THROUGH CALM CONVERSATION. STUDY PSYCHOLOGY AND SOCIOLOGY. IT CAN BE DONE IF DONE PROPERLY. THERE WAS NO REASON TO KILL THIS MAN. IF THEY WANT TO KILL SOMEONE, KILL CHILD MOLESTERS,MURDERERS,ETC.(ALTHOUGH THEY SHOULD STAY IN JAIL AND SUFFER). THE "WHAT IFS" DON'T COUNT BECAUSE "HE DIDN'T". HIS ACTIONS SEEMED TO BE A CRY FOR HELP. BUT WE'LL NEVER KNOW BECAUSE LMPD MURDERED HIM. I AGREE WITH LOUEASTEND. I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT HE'S SAYING AND IT'S TRUE . IF THIS MANS RELATIVES KNEW HE WAS MENTALLY ILL,THEY SHOULD HAVE MADE SURE THAT HE RECEIVED THE HELP HE NEEDED,BUT WE DON'T KNOW THE CIRCUMSTANCES. HE STILL DID NOT DESERVE TO DIE AT THE HANDS OF OFFICERS SWORN TO "SERVE AND PROTECT". THEY WERE MORE THAN CAPABLE OF "SERVING" HIM BY CALMING HIM SO THEY COULD ARREST HIM AND MAKE SURE THAT HE WAS "PROTECTED" BY GETTING HIM COURT ORDERED MENTAL HELP THAT HE NEEDED. PERIOD

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loueastend said on February 8, 2010 at 3:30 AM

As a retired officer myself, I think we have a real problem with this department. I was stopped by THREE police cars for absolutely no reason. When I asked the officer why he pulled me over, he stated that they were "just out fishing". This concerns me greatly. They are making traffic stops CONSTANTLY with no probable cause whatsoever. Hopefully a new mayor will change this. Too bad the local news media is so busy driving around town chasing snow flurries. Its time for our police department to start patrolling, and stop playing games.

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citizenkane said on February 8, 2010 at 2:35 AM

A hammer is a weapon. An irrational, escalated person doesnt respond to "Humane conversation" and he was aggressive. Put together they can be very lethel. Here they created a dreadful outcome. I cant help but ponder on the comment, "just a hammer", is that like "just a knife"? "just a piece of pipe"? "A machete used against children"? Where do we draw the line? A weapon is a weapon . Google death by hammer or blunt force deaths. If he was such a sweet person why were police called? And a history of violence dating back to 1986? Again there is a time when we are accountable for our own behavior. Police put their lives on the line daily. Some may "power trip" But the mass majority do not, they serve and protect.What if this man had hurt a civilian in his tirade. Would the police then be seen as remiss because they didnt fire on him? Or are they supposed to endanger their own welfare simply because they draw a salary to protect?

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mcki777 said on February 8, 2010 at 1:57 AM

NOW THAT I'VE HEARD THAT THIS MAN WAS MENTALLY ILL, I'M EVEN MORE FURIOUS THAN IN MY PREVIOUS POST.THIS IS JUST DOWNRIGHT RIDICULOUS!! LIKE I SAID BEFORE,SOME OFFICERS NEED TO STOP USING THEIR "POWER", GET DOWN OFF THEIR HIGH HORSE AND USE THEIR BRAINS!!!! THIS ONE MAN WITH A HAMMER COULD NOT POSSIBLY HAVE BEEN A THREAT TO FOUR POLICE OFFICERS WITH GUNS AND TASERS. THEY PROBABLY COULD HAVE TALKED TO HIM IN A DECENT,HUMANE WAY AND CALMED HIM DOWN,ESPECIALLY SINCE HE HAD A MENTAL ILLNESS. THEY MUST HAVE BEEN ABSENT IN EVERY TRAINING CLASS. OBVIOUSLY THEY DO NOT KNOW THE PROPER TIME OR WAY TO USE A GUN AND THEY NEED TO FIND ANOTHER JOB. TO THE PEOPLE OPPOSED TO SHOOTING HIM IN THE LEG,OKAY THEN,THE FOOT. HE COULDN'T WALK TO GET TO THEM,THEREFORE,HE WAS NO THREAT.THEY DID NOT HAVE TO KILL HIM. HE COULD HAVE BEEN STOPPED,AS I SAID BEFORE,THEN ARRESTED. THE JUDGE WOULD HAVE ORDERED PSYCHIATRIC HELP,WHICH HE NEEDED.NOT DEATH. PUT YOURSELF IN HIS LOVED ONES PLACE,THEN COMMENT.HE WAS HUMAN!!!

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betterville4all said on February 8, 2010 at 1:09 AM

There are a lot of questions to answer here, but none of them have to do with the police shooting him. I think everyone knows that you can get shot for threatening the police with a weapon. The police are soposed to PREVENT crime. In this case they prevented him from hurting someone with a hammer. The questions to be answered are: If he has a criminal history that went back over 25 years, why wasn't he in jail? He'd not been shot in there. If he was so mentally ill that he didn't realize threatening police with a hammer could get you shot, why wasn't he in a mental hospital? He would have been safe there. Come on, shoot him in the leg? That's so stupid, I won't even go there.

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citizenkane said on February 7, 2010 at 9:32 PM

Our police are hired to uphold the law and protect. Were they not called to this address because of this man? Did he not have a hammer he was wielding as a weapon not once but three times? (the intial time for which police were called as well as two incidents involving police). At what point do you stop him? After someone is maimed or has brain damage? Mentally ill or not there are circumstances in which people should be held accountable. A life should not be taken lightly but a person's actions, good or bad produce consequences. Brandishing a hammer and running towards police produced his death, not the police called to the scene. Now they have to live with the result of his actions.

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jobti said on February 7, 2010 at 8:57 PM

Why couldn't they just shoot him in the leg?" said Nancy French 1. This is NOT the movies, a leg shot is only for Hollywood. 2. Even if you do shoot the leg, the femoral artery is in the leg. A person can bleed to death within less than a minute. 3. You face some madman with a hammer, or for that matter anything at all, then you can critize, but not before.

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