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Conway, Paul and partisan groups spin the debate

Conway, Paul and partisan groups spin the debate

Rand Paul, Jack Conway

by News releases

WHAS11.com

Posted on October 19, 2010 at 3:55 AM

Poll:
Did the KY Senate debate help Jack Conway's or Rand Paul's campaign?


Conway Campaign: Rand Paul can huff and puff all he wants, but he
still hasn't explained his actions

LOUISVILLE - Jack Conway's U.S. Senate campaign released the following
statement regarding Rand Paul's refusal to answer basic questions
about the actions he has taken.

John Collins said, "Rand Paul can huff and puff all he wants, but he
still hasn't explained his actions: why he joined a secret society
after the President of Baylor University banned it because it 'made
fun of not only the Baptist religion, but Christianity and Christ.'
Rand Paul needs to answer why a woman said Paul 'blindfolded me, tied
me up…told me their god was 'Aqua Buddha' and that I needed to bow
down and worship him.' Rand ought to have the guts to keep his
commitment to KET and explain his actions to the people of Kentucky."



Friend,

The elements of a Jack Conway victory on November 2nd are all falling into place.

While Jack has been talking to people around the commonwealth about the problems we all face, and how he'll create jobs, Rand Paul has been stuck in reverse.

Rand has spent the last week waffling over his previous commitment to the right-wing pipe dream of a 23 percent national sales tax, and he's running his third ad backtracking from his callous plan to impose a $2,000 Medicare deductible.

Now Democrats are looking to Kentucky for their best pickup opportunity in the Senate, and we just got a huge endorsement from the Lexington Herald-Leader.

We all need to be a part of turning this momentum into a victory -- can you help out by using our easy online call tool to reach out to Kentucky voters?

Yesterday's Herald-Leader endorsement was absolutely brutal on Rand Paul:

So, the stark choice for Kentucky voters is this: a moderate Democrat who understands Kentucky's problems and needs and has a plan for creating jobs versus an ideologue Republican/Tea Partier with no record, no understanding of the state and a chain saw for a plan.

And to see how far paying attention to Kentucky's problems can get you nationally, check out the Washington Post:

Conservative-leaning Kentucky has now passed four more attractive swing-state open seats -- Florida, Missouri, New Hampshire and Ohio -- to become Senate Democrats' top target this year.

We've got a golden opportunity here, and to seize it, we'll have to work together.

Right now, undecided voters in Kentucky are making up their minds, and the voice of a fellow Conway supporter like you could make the difference. Click here to call.

Thanks for your support,

Jonathan Drobis
Campaign Manager
Conway for Senate

P.S. Tune into MSNBC's Hardball tonight at 7:00 p.m. for an extended segment with Chris Matthews interviewing Jack live in Louisville!



Have you no shame?

That’s what I said to Jack Conway last night, and I meant it.   Desperate and shameful attacks.  Gutter politics.

It is demeaning to him and to Kentucky.

I am not going to let it stand.

You may have seen my opening statements at the debate last night. If not you can see them HERE


We also have a new ad going up today to tell the people of Kentucky exactly what Jack Conway has done.  He is shaming himself and causing this race to become personal.

I did not start this fight, but I will not let him question my Christian beliefs.  I will not let him insert the politics of personal destruction into this race and go unanswered.

You can see our response ad  HERE:


Will you help me run this ad across Kentucky over the next few days?   We obviously were not planning on having to run an ad like this.

It’s just two weeks from election day, and every dollar counts.

So if you can, please click HERE to donate to run this ad across Kentucky, to let Jack Conway know we will not stand for this kind of smear.

 

Thank You,

Rand Paul, MD
 


Conway release

"Paul doesn’t deny the incident. Paul doesn’t deny the incident. He
does deny that he engaged in a criminal kidnapping, though the Conway
ad doesn’t specifically accuse him of that.

"There is support for the ad’s claim that Paul’s college group, the
NoZe Brotherhood, "mocked Christianity." According to Politico, for
example, "The group’s work often had a specifically anti-Christian
tone, as it made fun of the Baptist college’s faith-based
orientation." As for calling the Bible a "hoax," that was done in a
satirical article in the NoZe newsletter. The article, titled "Fishy
Bibles," claimed that the Bible’s true author was a Clement Updike,
83, of Victor, Calif., and quoted him as saying, "I wrote it as a
lark."

"Politico also reports that the group was indeed formally banned at
one point by Baylor on grounds of "sacrilege." But that happened two
years before Paul arrived. "They had ‘made fun of not only the Baptist
religion, but Christianity and Christ,’ " Baylor President Herbert
Reynolds told the student newspaper, The Lariat, according to
Politico.

"So the ad’s most dramatic claims are well documented. Whether it’s
fair to dredge up irreverent college hijinks from 30 years ago is
another matter, which we’ll leave to our readers to judge. Paul is out
with a counter advertisement accusing Conway of "attacking Rand Paul’s
faith," and saying that "Rand Paul keeps Christ in his heart."

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Conway ‘Lying’ About ‘Aqua Buddha’?
http://www.factcheck.org/2010/10/conway-lying-about-aqua-buddha/
Joshua Goldman, October 18, 2010

Kentucky Republican Rand Paul said his Senate Democratic opponent,
Jack Conway, has "descended into the gutter" after making a personal
attack on Paul’s college days in a recent ad. Paul even refused to
shake Conway’s hand before a debate the two had at the University of
Louisville on Oct. 17. During the debate, Paul called his opponent out
multiple times saying, "You just out and out lie because you have
nothing to stand on. …You demean the state of Kentucky." Paul said:
"You know how we know when you’re lying? Your lips are moving."

This is the ad that caused the fuss:

So what are the facts? Is Conway "lying" or not?

The ad says that during his student days, Paul was a member of a
secret society at Baylor University that "called the Holy Bible a
hoax" and "was banned for mocking Christianity and Christ." And it
asks: "Why did Rand Paul once tie a woman up, and tell her to bow down
before a false idol and say his God was Aqua Buddha?"

Those allegations stem from a GQ story published in August. A former
classmate of Paul’s at Baylor — speaking anonymously — told a reporter
that 30 years ago Paul and a friend tied her hands, asked her to smoke
marijuana and then took her to a creek where they blindfolded her and
told her to worship an "Aqua Buddha" as her God. Several media outlets
repeated the GQ story, calling Paul a kidnapper. But it now appears
that the incident was just a weird prank, not a kidnapping, at least
according to the woman involved. Still speaking anonymously, she told
the Washington Post that she was merely being "hazed" by her friends.

Washington Post, August 11: "I went along because they were my
friends," she said. "There was an implicit degree of cooperation in
the whole thing. I felt like I was being hazed." …

"[They] came over to my house as friends that I knew," she told me.
"They immediately said, `We’re going to tie you up and go for a ride.’
" …

Though the GQ piece never used the word "kidnapping," (and quoted her
saying the whole thing was a "joke"), subsequent media coverage has
characterized the allegations this way, seemingly allowing Paul to
keep the conversation focused on this one charge. He hasn’t responded
to questions about the blindfolding or the Aqua Buddha.

Paul doesn’t deny the incident. He does deny that he engaged in a
criminal kidnapping, though the Conway ad doesn’t specifically accuse
him of that.

There is support for the ad’s claim that Paul’s college group, the
NoZe Brotherhood, "mocked Christianity." According to Politico, for
example, "The group’s work often had a specifically anti-Christian
tone, as it made fun of the Baptist college’s faith-based
orientation." As for calling the Bible a "hoax," that was done in a
satirical article in the NoZe newsletter. The article, titled "Fishy
Bibles," claimed that the Bible’s true author was a Clement Updike,
83, of Victor, Calif., and quoted him as saying, "I wrote it as a
lark."

Politico also reports that the group was indeed formally banned at one
point by Baylor on grounds of "sacrilege." But that happened two years
before Paul arrived. "They had ‘made fun of not only the Baptist
religion, but Christianity and Christ,’ " Baylor President Herbert
Reynolds told the student newspaper, The Lariat, according to
Politico.

So the ad’s most dramatic claims are well documented. Whether it’s
fair to dredge up irreverent college hijinks from 30 years ago is
another matter, which we’ll leave to our readers to judge. Paul is out
with a counter advertisement accusing Conway of "attacking Rand Paul’s
faith," and saying that "Rand Paul keeps Christ in his heart."

The ad also claims that Paul wants to "end all federal faith-based
initiatives," created under President George W. Bush. That’s based on
remarks that Paul made in June 2008 on the public affairs program
"Kentucky Tonight." Paul said Bush’s initiative was a "horrible
mistake" and added: "We shouldn’t have tax money flowing into
churches, and we should let churches do charity work, and that’s
wonderful, but they shouldn’t be corrupted with government money."

The Conway ad does contain a claim we find to be misleading. It claims
that Paul wants to "end the [tax] deduction for religious charities."
That’s based on Paul’s supposed support for the FairTax proposal,
which would replace the federal income tax with a broadly based sales
tax on nearly all purchases — and thus eliminate the need for any
deductions. And Paul’s campaign is now denying that he supports the
FairTax anyway, according to The Associated Press.



 

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